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• 1 Chris_Titan // Oct 5, 2006 at 11:19 pm

  Then I was an ass and reacted with somemore playground nonsense…

  It is like mixing climbing a greased pole and spiral dynamics…

  The dynamic Spiral is the framework on which vMEME awakenings and expressions hang. It is the organizing principle that pulls the “Why?” from apparent chaos and translates our values languages. Instead of categorizing behavior or classifying people – there are plenty of other models that do that – Spiral Dynamics will guide your search for the invisible, living vMEMES that circulate far deeper within human systems and pulsate at the choice-making center in every person’s, organization’s, or society’s core.

• 2 fenris23 // Oct 6, 2006 at 2:26 am

  YAAAAY!

  Keep up the positive communications.

• 3 Snoop // Oct 6, 2006 at 7:46 am

  I would be more inclined to take simpology seriously if it was more succesfull. I mean, if this is supposedly some technique to make you super succesful, then why aren’t you?

  It seems to me like most self help books or religions, little bit of blatently obvious truth mixed with fluff, standard disinfomation. No offence.

  Also the link to magical techniques seems to be tedious. I know “manifestation in accourdance with will” is the standard definition, or something like that, but that leave’s a broad range of interpretation, so people will call anything magic wich involves A) Achieving something B) Somehow involves you. Which is pretty much everything. Thing is, i don’t know the secrets of how magic works, i doubt anyone does, but as a quite heavy practioner there are alot of strands that run along all magic’s, like tarot, shammanism, sigil’s, hypersigils. Magic is the developmental skill wich allows for control and context of our brain created little world. I’m not sure if simpology fall’s into magic, or self-help/religion. But it seems alot like a self help book with magical terminology thrown in.

  You may be very succesfull, i don’t know, in which case you should be giving this away for free. Because you wouldnt need the money right? Because you could be succesfull doing something else?

• 4 Snoop // Oct 6, 2006 at 8:38 am

  I realise this is tottaly counter to what Klint was about here, but it brought my attentio to this magickian of simpology lark, and i didn’t like it.

• 5 wu // Oct 8, 2006 at 11:18 pm

  simpleology works because it was built out of magickal techniques. It isn’t that titan is layering a magickal structure on top of simpleology, but rather that he’s exposing the magickal structure.

  and the reason most magickians are not rich is because they’re too unwilling to let go of their egos to cooperate with the netocratic society on which reality is currently structured.

  if energy can’t flow in and out through a personality, money can’t flow through your pocketbook.

  here’s the relevant quote:

  “Anxious tinkering with one’s own ego, outdatted individualism, is instead characteristic of the new underclass. It is this very inability to see beyond their own ego and its desires that means that the underclass will remain an underclass.” - netocracy (a.bard & j. soderquist, 2002)

• 6 Klintron // Oct 9, 2006 at 4:28 pm

  Danny Chaoflux was trying to post this, but had a problem, but for some reason my blogging software isn\\\’t letting him:

  -start choaflux-

  I\’m still not sold on it personally.

  Tell me when the thousands of dollars roll on in, then I\’ll listen up. When it actually proves itself to work.

  The reason why occultists aren\’t rich isnt because of an underclassist egocentric meme, its because they are fucking occultists in the first place.

  Its like asking, \’where are all the billion dollar ascetic sadhu tycoons?\’

  Whatever the case is, making money, just like results in magic, takes hard work. Sure, there are shortcuts, and for the former I would say it would to have a novel product [aka a great idea], incidentally, I could also see that as a shortcut to magic. By great, I dont mean ideal or interesting, I mean something that is proven to work, whilst being plenty sexy.

  Back to the idea that occultists are poor as a rule, I say this because if someone is an occultist before they are an artist, businessman, professor, or whatever else, is because they are focusing on the other worldly, and don\’t have anything tangible thats of any value to the mighty cyclopes egregore named Kapital. There are circumstances where one would say this isnt so, but in most of those cases, you are talking about people who were already talented in the arts or business science to begin with.

  That does not devalue to the works being done by magicians who primarily work with other worldly mediums for their art, it\’s just a matter of self awareness. A great book on a materialistic approach to magic and self change is _Uncle Setnakts Essential Guide to the Left Hand Path_ by Don Webb, within it, there is a section that breaks down some tasks in life. Among them, there is Rulership of the Inner World, and naturally, Rulership in the Outer World. It is an important distinction to make, that although these worlds are intimately interrelated, and can change based on their relationship to eachother, success that takes real hold in each of those spheres is its own separate thing that takes alot of time and commitment. Once folks reach a higher level in magic internally, it might seem natural that the cosmos should then bend to them and make them gazillionaires, which would be nice, but I\’m going with the hunch that its much more complex than that, … simple it aint.

  Also, that is not to say that one isn\’t a real deal occultist unless they thus attain the golden bling-bling chalice of esoteric crunkatude, its a matter of focus, taste, and love. Wealth is a matter of perspective. I feel pretty damn rich myself. But thats besides the point, if someone has a great and fantastic idea that means they will have to spend tons of money on it, sometimes the money will come along, or you can find an investor. If its just money for the sake of Scooge McDuck styled swimming in gold coins, I\’m not so sure. Scooge McDuck was an asshole anyways. Fuck that shit.

  -end chaoflux-

• 7 Klintron // Oct 9, 2006 at 4:30 pm

  I forgot to mention, Chris’s Vryl Society http://www.myspace.com/vrylsociety inspired my contribution to the Key 23 hyperwiki http://key23.net/wiki/index.php/Cas_stroj

  Anyway, since this thread is getting away from its intended purpose and into a discussion of Simpleology, I’m closing it for further comments.